Say The Thing - “I love you…and I want to kill you.”: Women’s Health, Perimenopause and Menopause Journey
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“I love you… and I want to kill you.”


If that sentence makes you feel seen, this episode is for you.


Mikelle and Michelle are joined by Béatrice Séguin, PhD, for a candid - ‘Say The Thing’ conversation about rage, resentment, desire, and changing roles in long-term relationships—especially through motherhood and perimenopause.



They unpack why two things can be true at once, how hormones and mental load collide, why mothering your partner kills libido, and what it actually takes to set boundaries, share the load, and communicate honestly without guilt. From responsive desire to dropping unrealistic expectations, this episode offers relief, validation, and real-world strategies for evolving alongside your partner instead of burning out.

If you’ve ever wondered, Why does everything annoy me now?—you’re not alone.


This podcast is brought to you by Coral, a virtual clinic designed for women in midlife. They provide personalized, evidence-based care that supports every woman’s unique journey—whether you’re in perimenopause, menopause, or the years beyond.Use code TIP5 for 5% off atcoral.ca.


Connect with Mikelle & Michelle at This is Perimenopause



About Béatrice Séguin, PhD


I'm Dr. Béatrice Séguin, and like many of you, I've been blindsided by (peri)menopause. This journey pushed me into self-advocacy, armed with my PhD and a relentless drive to uncover the science behind midlife. TTOM is your go-to resource for expert advice on fashion, lifestyle, health, and nutrition—all delivered with a vibe that says, "We're in this together."

In a world full of confusing and conflicting information, TTOM cuts through the noise. I'm here to provide evidence-based answers and a good dose of girlfriend fun along the way. This community is about more than just surviving midlife—it's about owning it with science-backed confidence and style.

Let’s celebrate the power and beauty of aging by rewriting the narrative together.


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